, he'll need leader mcconnell and the minority leader, mcconnell's support in order to move a deal in the senate. so, i hate to say it. i'm not terribly optimistic we will not drift off the fiscal cliff here. >> heather: after the rejection of speaker boehner's plan b, by his own party, which included a tax hike for millionaires, what might such a deal look like? and do you think it is possible? >> you know, i agree with bill. i think the action definitely shifts to the senate now. i share the president's optimism that he expressed in his friday press conference that i think they can come back and get a deal. look, when you actually look at the numbers on this, they are not far apart as the president said, and they are about $60 billion or so, per year apart and that is something that can be easily overcome, i think the challenge for both parties, is the deal they are talking about, right now is the 2.2, to $2.4 trillion range and when look at what economists say is necessary, they are looking at a deal in the the 3 to $4 trillion range and, so i think the challenge now is going --